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    <description>Monero Talk broadcasts weekly conversations on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/monerotalk) with topical guests to understand what the Monero cryptocurrency is today and what it hopes to become. 
We strive to give birth to new Monero users by simply reporting on the facts in our search to answer the question--Is Monero the truest cryptocurrency of them all? In staying true to the Monero ethos, we aim to always be skeptical. While we are Monero Talk by name, and Monero devotees at heart, the intention of the show is to ultimately discover and support the one blockchain that is most aligned with the original cypherpunk and crypto-anarchist ideals that cryptocurrency was born from. And the one that is most likely to succeed at becoming true digital cash. So far, we believe Monero is the one.
Guests include:
The developers and researchers working on the open source core protocol and the cryptography behind it; 
The people building the projects and infrastructure supporting the protocol; 
Privacy advocates and people building privacy enhancing technologies;
Analysts and investors speculating on Monero's growth;
Journalists and pundits weighing in on Monero's place in the crypto-sphere; and 
Respected (sometimes controversial) contributors and community members.
If you enjoyed the show &amp; would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much!
Monero (XMR) Donation Address:
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We strive to give birth to new Monero users by simply reporting on the facts in our search to answer the question--Is Monero the truest cryptocurrency of them all? In staying true to the Monero ethos, we aim to always be skeptical. While we are Monero Talk by name, and Monero devotees at heart, the intention of the show is to ultimately discover and support the one blockchain that is most aligned with the original cypherpunk and crypto-anarchist ideals that cryptocurrency was born from. And the one that is most likely to succeed at becoming true digital cash. So far, we believe Monero is the one.
Guests include:
The developers and researchers working on the open source core protocol and the cryptography behind it; 
The people building the projects and infrastructure supporting the protocol; 
Privacy advocates and people building privacy enhancing technologies;
Analysts and investors speculating on Monero's growth;
Journalists and pundits weighing in on Monero's place in the crypto-sphere; and 
Respected (sometimes controversial) contributors and community members.
If you enjoyed the show &amp; would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much!
Monero (XMR) Donation Address:
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  <title>An overview of Bitcoin Privacy efforts: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly w/ Justin Ehrenhofer (Monerotopia23)</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Supporting us is easier than ever, by typing in MONEROTALK.CRYPTO into your monero.com or Cake Wallet send address field - to send us a tip 😉 

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Monerotopia 2023 - El Dinero de la Gente🎉🇲🇽 📜  May 5 - May7 in Mexico City! We had AMAZING Speakers lined up: freedom seekers on a mission to build out a true digital cash parallel economy outside of State control. This was not a number go up maxi fest!

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OR DONATE HERE: https://www.monerotalk.live/donate
Speaker: Justin Ehrenhofer (former VP Operations, Cake Wallet)
In this talk, Justin Ehrenhofer explores the privacy considerations in Bitcoin while comparing it to Monero. He discusses various Bitcoin privacy approaches and highlights their pros and cons, as well as touching upon Bitcoin Lightning Network's privacy challenges. The talk emphasizes that while Bitcoin can achieve privacy to some extent, Monero remains superior in terms of transaction anonymity and fungibility! 
If you're interested in Bitcoin privacy, join us for an insightful talk and learn more about the importance of careful privacy practices!
Links:
https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer
https://twitter.com/cakewallet
https://cakewallet.com/
Watch on YouTube (https://youtu.be/AM1-ijYVUks)
TELEGRAM: https://t.me/monerotopia
MATRIX: https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social
MoneroTopia23 Confer Vids:
ODY: https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/Monerotopia23:8
TY: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfJ_JjSwYaa810CWboNcPX7cY-JYEWo-4
A SUPER Thank you  to CakeWallet.com and Monero.com for being the Main Stage Sponsor!
https://twitter.com/cakewallet
https://twitter.com/monerocom
ITUNES: https://apple.co/34W7FVp
SPOTIFY: https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4
STITCHER: https://bit.ly/2tUcIck
ODYSEE: https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE
WEBSITE: https://www..Monerotopia.com
CONTACT: monerotopia@protonmail.com
Mastedon: @Monerotopia@mastodon.social
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/monerotopia
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/monerotopia/
DOUGLAS: https://twitter.com/douglastuman
SUNITA: https://twitter.com/sunchakr
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<p>OR DONATE HERE: <a href="https://www.monerotalk.live/donate" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotalk.live/donate</a></p>

<p>Speaker: Justin Ehrenhofer (former VP Operations, Cake Wallet)</p>

<p>In this talk, Justin Ehrenhofer explores the privacy considerations in Bitcoin while comparing it to Monero. He discusses various Bitcoin privacy approaches and highlights their pros and cons, as well as touching upon Bitcoin Lightning Network&#39;s privacy challenges. The talk emphasizes that while Bitcoin can achieve privacy to some extent, Monero remains superior in terms of transaction anonymity and fungibility! </p>

<p>If you&#39;re interested in Bitcoin privacy, join us for an insightful talk and learn more about the importance of careful privacy practices!</p>

<p>Links:<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/cakewallet" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cakewallet</a><br>
<a href="https://cakewallet.com/" rel="nofollow">https://cakewallet.com/</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/AM1-ijYVUks" rel="nofollow">Watch on YouTube</a></p>

<p>TELEGRAM: <a href="https://t.me/monerotopia" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/monerotopia</a></p>

<p>MATRIX: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social" rel="nofollow">https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social</a></p>

<p>MoneroTopia23 Confer Vids:</p>

<p>ODY: <a href="https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/Monerotopia23:8" rel="nofollow">https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/Monerotopia23:8</a></p>

<p>TY: <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfJ_JjSwYaa810CWboNcPX7cY-JYEWo-4" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfJ_JjSwYaa810CWboNcPX7cY-JYEWo-4</a></p>

<p>A SUPER Thank you  to CakeWallet.com and Monero.com for being the Main Stage Sponsor!</p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/cakewallet" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cakewallet</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/monerocom" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/monerocom</a></p>

<p>ITUNES: <a href="https://apple.co/34W7FVp" rel="nofollow">https://apple.co/34W7FVp</a><br>
SPOTIFY: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4" rel="nofollow">https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4</a><br>
STITCHER: <a href="https://bit.ly/2tUcIck" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/2tUcIck</a><br>
ODYSEE: <a href="https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE</a><br>
WEBSITE: <a href="https://www..Monerotopia.com" rel="nofollow">https://www..Monerotopia.com</a><br>
CONTACT: <a href="mailto:monerotopia@protonmail.com" rel="nofollow">monerotopia@protonmail.com</a><br>
Mastedon: @<a href="mailto:Monerotopia@mastodon.social" rel="nofollow">Monerotopia@mastodon.social</a></p>

<p>TWITTER: <a href="https://twitter.com/monerotopia" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/monerotopia</a><br>
INSTAGRAM: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/monerotopia/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/monerotopia/</a><br>
DOUGLAS: <a href="https://twitter.com/douglastuman" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/douglastuman</a><br>
SUNITA: <a href="https://twitter.com/sunchakr" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sunchakr</a></p>]]>
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<p>OR DONATE HERE: <a href="https://www.monerotalk.live/donate" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotalk.live/donate</a></p>

<p>Speaker: Justin Ehrenhofer (former VP Operations, Cake Wallet)</p>

<p>In this talk, Justin Ehrenhofer explores the privacy considerations in Bitcoin while comparing it to Monero. He discusses various Bitcoin privacy approaches and highlights their pros and cons, as well as touching upon Bitcoin Lightning Network&#39;s privacy challenges. The talk emphasizes that while Bitcoin can achieve privacy to some extent, Monero remains superior in terms of transaction anonymity and fungibility! </p>

<p>If you&#39;re interested in Bitcoin privacy, join us for an insightful talk and learn more about the importance of careful privacy practices!</p>

<p>Links:<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/JEhrenhofer</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/cakewallet" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cakewallet</a><br>
<a href="https://cakewallet.com/" rel="nofollow">https://cakewallet.com/</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/AM1-ijYVUks" rel="nofollow">Watch on YouTube</a></p>

<p>TELEGRAM: <a href="https://t.me/monerotopia" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/monerotopia</a></p>

<p>MATRIX: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social" rel="nofollow">https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social</a></p>

<p>MoneroTopia23 Confer Vids:</p>

<p>ODY: <a href="https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/Monerotopia23:8" rel="nofollow">https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8/Monerotopia23:8</a></p>

<p>TY: <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfJ_JjSwYaa810CWboNcPX7cY-JYEWo-4" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfJ_JjSwYaa810CWboNcPX7cY-JYEWo-4</a></p>

<p>A SUPER Thank you  to CakeWallet.com and Monero.com for being the Main Stage Sponsor!</p>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/cakewallet" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/cakewallet</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/monerocom" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/monerocom</a></p>

<p>ITUNES: <a href="https://apple.co/34W7FVp" rel="nofollow">https://apple.co/34W7FVp</a><br>
SPOTIFY: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4" rel="nofollow">https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4</a><br>
STITCHER: <a href="https://bit.ly/2tUcIck" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/2tUcIck</a><br>
ODYSEE: <a href="https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE</a><br>
WEBSITE: <a href="https://www..Monerotopia.com" rel="nofollow">https://www..Monerotopia.com</a><br>
CONTACT: <a href="mailto:monerotopia@protonmail.com" rel="nofollow">monerotopia@protonmail.com</a><br>
Mastedon: @<a href="mailto:Monerotopia@mastodon.social" rel="nofollow">Monerotopia@mastodon.social</a></p>

<p>TWITTER: <a href="https://twitter.com/monerotopia" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/monerotopia</a><br>
INSTAGRAM: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/monerotopia/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/monerotopia/</a><br>
DOUGLAS: <a href="https://twitter.com/douglastuman" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/douglastuman</a><br>
SUNITA: <a href="https://twitter.com/sunchakr" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sunchakr</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Where Bitcoin fails as censorship resistant digital cash, Monero thrives w/ Ragnar Lifthrasir | EPI #293</title>
  <link>https://www.monerotalk.live/where-bitcoin-fails-as-censorship-resistant-digital-cash-monero-thrives-w-ragnar-lifthrasir</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Monero Talk</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>TODAY'S 🎙SHOW: Douglas Tuman interviews Ragnar Lifthrasir, an OG Bitcoiner who has increasingly become a staunch support of Monero in light of Bitcoins lack of privacy and fungibility. He is launching a new conference this year called the “Finney Forum” which focuses on Bitcoin privacy tech &amp; Monero.

Together they discuss how Ragnar realized through the gun community some of the flaws of Bitcoin that Monero could fix, what will happen to Bitcoin if the state seizes control? What effect would a ban on Monero have and could it take Monero adoption to the next level? The drama in the Bitcoin community in contrast to the Monero community's cohesion. Doubts about Bitcoin’s censorship resistance in regards to Ocean mining censoring Samourai wallet and Ordinals and more!</itunes:subtitle>
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OR DONATE HERE: https://www.monerotalk.live/donate
TODAY'S SHOW: Douglas Tuman interviews Ragnar Lifthrasir, an OG Bitcoiner who has increasingly become a staunch support of Monero in light of Bitcoins lack of privacy and fungibility. He is launching a new conference this year called the “Finney Forum” which focuses on Bitcoin privacy tech &amp;amp; Monero.
Together they discuss how Ragnar realized through the gun community some of the flaws of Bitcoin that Monero could fix, what will happen to Bitcoin if the state seizes control? What effect would a ban on Monero have and could it take Monero adoption to the next level? The drama in the Bitcoin community in contrast to the Monero community's cohesion. Doubts about Bitcoin’s censorship resistance in regards to Ocean mining censoring Samourai wallet and Ordinals and more!
Timestamps: 
Coming soon!
LINKS:
TWITTER: @RagnarLif
SPONSORS:
Cakewallet.com, the first open-source Monero wallet for iOS. You can even exchange between XMR, BTC, LTC &amp;amp; more in the app! Monero.com by Cake Wallet - ONLY Monero wallet (https://monero.com/)
StealthEX, an instant exchange. Go to (https://stealthex.io) to instantly exchange between Monero and 450 plus assets, w/o having to create an account or register &amp;amp;  with no limits. 
WEBSITE: https://www.monerotopia.com 
CONTACT: Monerotalk@protonmail.com 
ODYSEE: https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8 
TWITTER: https://twitter.com/monerotalk 
FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/MoneroTalk/ 
HOST: https://twitter.com/douglastuman 
INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/monerotalk/ 
TELEGRAM: https://t.me/monerotopia 
MATRIX: https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social
MASTEDON: @Monerotalk@mastodon.social 
MONERO.TOWN: https://monero.town/u/monerotalk 
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  <itunes:keywords>bitcoin, blockchain, crypto, cryptocurrency, monero, privacy, privacycoin, xmr, fungible, ragnar, finney forum, adoption, fungibility, censorshipresistance</itunes:keywords>
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<p>OR DONATE HERE: <a href="https://www.monerotalk.live/donate" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotalk.live/donate</a></p>

<p>TODAY&#39;S SHOW: Douglas Tuman interviews Ragnar Lifthrasir, an OG Bitcoiner who has increasingly become a staunch support of Monero in light of Bitcoins lack of privacy and fungibility. He is launching a new conference this year called the “Finney Forum” which focuses on Bitcoin privacy tech &amp; Monero.</p>

<p>Together they discuss how Ragnar realized through the gun community some of the flaws of Bitcoin that Monero could fix, what will happen to Bitcoin if the state seizes control? What effect would a ban on Monero have and could it take Monero adoption to the next level? The drama in the Bitcoin community in contrast to the Monero community&#39;s cohesion. Doubts about Bitcoin’s censorship resistance in regards to Ocean mining censoring Samourai wallet and Ordinals and more!</p>

<p>Timestamps: <br>
Coming soon!</p>

<p>LINKS:<br>
TWITTER: @RagnarLif</p>

<p>SPONSORS:<br>
Cakewallet.com, the first open-source Monero wallet for iOS. You can even exchange between XMR, BTC, LTC &amp; more in the app! Monero.com by Cake Wallet - ONLY Monero wallet (<a href="https://monero.com/" rel="nofollow">https://monero.com/</a>)</p>

<p>StealthEX, an instant exchange. Go to (<a href="https://stealthex.io" rel="nofollow">https://stealthex.io</a>) to instantly exchange between Monero and 450 plus assets, w/o having to create an account or register &amp;  with no limits. </p>

<p>WEBSITE: <a href="https://www.monerotopia.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotopia.com</a> <br>
CONTACT: <a href="mailto:Monerotalk@protonmail.com" rel="nofollow">Monerotalk@protonmail.com</a> <br>
ODYSEE: <a href="https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8" rel="nofollow">https://odysee.com/@MoneroTalk:8</a> <br>
TWITTER: <a href="https://twitter.com/monerotalk" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/monerotalk</a> <br>
FACEBOOK: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MoneroTalk/" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/MoneroTalk/</a> <br>
HOST: <a href="https://twitter.com/douglastuman" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/douglastuman</a> <br>
INSTAGRAM: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/monerotalk/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/monerotalk/</a> <br>
TELEGRAM: <a href="https://t.me/monerotopia" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/monerotopia</a> <br>
MATRIX: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social" rel="nofollow">https://matrix.to/#/%23monerotopia%3Amonero.social</a><br>
MASTEDON: @<a href="mailto:Monerotalk@mastodon.social" rel="nofollow">Monerotalk@mastodon.social</a> <br>
MONERO.TOWN: <a href="https://monero.town/u/monerotalk" rel="nofollow">https://monero.town/u/monerotalk</a></p>]]>
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<p>OR DONATE HERE: <a href="https://www.monerotalk.live/donate" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotalk.live/donate</a></p>

<p>TODAY&#39;S SHOW: Douglas Tuman interviews Ragnar Lifthrasir, an OG Bitcoiner who has increasingly become a staunch support of Monero in light of Bitcoins lack of privacy and fungibility. He is launching a new conference this year called the “Finney Forum” which focuses on Bitcoin privacy tech &amp; Monero.</p>

<p>Together they discuss how Ragnar realized through the gun community some of the flaws of Bitcoin that Monero could fix, what will happen to Bitcoin if the state seizes control? What effect would a ban on Monero have and could it take Monero adoption to the next level? The drama in the Bitcoin community in contrast to the Monero community&#39;s cohesion. Doubts about Bitcoin’s censorship resistance in regards to Ocean mining censoring Samourai wallet and Ordinals and more!</p>

<p>Timestamps: <br>
Coming soon!</p>

<p>LINKS:<br>
TWITTER: @RagnarLif</p>

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  <title>XMRtopia 2022 speakers, Nam Sardar &amp; Rachel-Rose O’Leary, Price Report &amp; MORE! EPI#57</title>
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  <description>MONEROTOPIA 💃🏽🏝🕺🏼 EPISODE #57: A Monerotopia 2022 Conference update (13 days left!!!), Price Report with aFungible, special Monerotopia 2022 guest speakers, Rachel-Rose O’Leary, a long time Monero supporter, a programmer and writer working on anonymity software DarkFi (we had technical issues last week so she is joining us again this weekend!), Nam Sardar, Founder &amp;amp; CEO at Neel Capital &amp;amp; MORE!!


GET YOUR MONEROTOPIA2022 TICKETS TODAY! The list just keeps growing! https://monerotopia.com/
If you enjoyed the show &amp;amp; would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much!
XMR Donations Accepted (Type in monerotalk.crypto in Cake Wallet):
49GdSCVTTE4TaDknDFn95QGc3mn3g7JZiPKX6QM7ZpuE5cscRFuGNhnjATKnjDHY7tNUQMM63n24uPYbj1AXFBk5KUPnDrL
OR 
you can also help support the channel by purchasing a bag of delicious Guatemalan Coffee! Check out https://gratuitas.org/ to buy a bag &amp;amp; if you enjoy what you taste, send a Monero tip directly to the farmers that grew, harvested, prepared, and roasted your beans! 
Hotel Suggestions: Group Name: Monero Talk 2022
-Link for Tradewinds: https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index15.html
-Link for Chesterfield: https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index105.html
-Link for Catalina Hotel: https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index107.html
⏱Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro 
00:44 - Monerotopia: cool guests and things that are comming
11:46 - Price report!
19:43 - 1# Guest segment: Rachel Rose on private DeFi
32:07 - 2# Guest segment: Nam Sardar and a panoramic view on Monero!
41:14 - News segment
41:51 - Should monero be used for privacy?
45:23 - European Parliament blocking anonymous crypto payments
47:13 - Michael Ruiz highlights on BTC problems
48:28 - Fluffy Pony on Wraped Monero for DeFi
49:41 - 9M XMR spotted on Kucoin!?
50:49 - Without privacy we are creating a system to discriminate
53:34 - Governments supporting monero?
54:03 - Viewers on stage
🔗Links:  
Nam Sardar: https://twitter.com/namsardar
Website: neelcapital.io
Rachel-Rose O’Leary: https://github.com/lunar-mining
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lunar_mining
📈 aFungible Donation Address:
88hsMwgz7ifgEj6BqsBYB9LnjwBrJRJBw9mSt6TKVRH5FyQHmdRN4BqE2PJx3re5r58sf11eJyHDD7UGivjQ3h3jS732FMH
📰🗞 NEWS SEGMENT LINKS:
-https://twitter.com/douglastuman/status/1507208750196789248?s=21
-https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/25/eu-lawmakers-to-vote-on-blocking-anonymous-crypto-payments-documents-show/
-https://twitter.com/sovrynmindset/status/1507246275208560640?s=21
-https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1504430410415099914?s=21
-https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tiqgfk/9millionxmrspotedinkucoin/?utmsource=share&amp;amp;utmmedium=iosapp&amp;amp;utm_name=iossmf
-https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6
-https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/powell-says-digital-dollar-must-ensure-privacy-identification
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Monero.com by Cake Wallet -  ONLY Monero wallet https://monero.com/
🚨PRICE REPORT SPONSOR:
The Monerotopia Price Report Segment is sponsored by… LocalMonero. Avoid using KYC exchanges, Buy &amp;amp; Sell Monero directly for fiat, peer to peer.
Website: https://localmonero.co/
🚨WEEKLY NEWS SPONSOR:The Moneroptopia weekly News segment is sponsored by…IVPN. Resist online Surveillance, IVPN  is an open source app and website that doesn’t log your activity, store any of your personal data and no email required to create an account! Go to Ivpn.net today!
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<p>GET YOUR MONEROTOPIA2022 TICKETS TODAY! The list just keeps growing! <a href="https://monerotopia.com/" rel="nofollow">https://monerotopia.com/</a></p>

<p>If you enjoyed the show &amp; would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much!</p>

<p>XMR Donations Accepted (Type in monerotalk.crypto in Cake Wallet):<br>
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<p>OR </p>

<p>you can also help support the channel by purchasing a bag of delicious Guatemalan Coffee! Check out <a href="https://gratuitas.org/" rel="nofollow">https://gratuitas.org/</a> to buy a bag &amp; if you enjoy what you taste, send a Monero tip directly to the farmers that grew, harvested, prepared, and roasted your beans! </p>

<p>Hotel Suggestions: Group Name: Monero Talk 2022<br>
-Link for Tradewinds: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index15.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index15.html</a><br>
-Link for Chesterfield: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index105.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index105.html</a><br>
-Link for Catalina Hotel: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index107.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index107.html</a></p>

<p>⏱Timestamps:<br>
00:00 - Intro <br>
00:44 - Monerotopia: cool guests and things that are comming<br>
11:46 - Price report!<br>
19:43 - 1# Guest segment: Rachel Rose on private DeFi<br>
32:07 - 2# Guest segment: Nam Sardar and a panoramic view on Monero!<br>
41:14 - News segment<br>
41:51 - Should monero be used for privacy?<br>
45:23 - European Parliament blocking anonymous crypto payments<br>
47:13 - Michael Ruiz highlights on BTC problems<br>
48:28 - Fluffy Pony on Wraped Monero for DeFi<br>
49:41 - 9M XMR spotted on Kucoin!?<br>
50:49 - Without privacy we are creating a system to discriminate<br>
53:34 - Governments supporting monero?<br>
54:03 - Viewers on stage</p>

<p>🔗Links:<br><br>
Nam Sardar: <a href="https://twitter.com/namsardar" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/namsardar</a><br>
Website: neelcapital.io<br>
Rachel-Rose O’Leary: <a href="https://github.com/lunar-mining" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/lunar-mining</a><br>
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lunar_mining" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/lunar_mining</a></p>

<p>📈 aFungible Donation Address:<br>
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<p>📰🗞 NEWS SEGMENT LINKS:<br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/douglastuman/status/1507208750196789248?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/douglastuman/status/1507208750196789248?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/25/eu-lawmakers-to-vote-on-blocking-anonymous-crypto-payments-documents-show/" rel="nofollow">https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/25/eu-lawmakers-to-vote-on-blocking-anonymous-crypto-payments-documents-show/</a><br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/sovrynmindset/status/1507246275208560640?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sovrynmindset/status/1507246275208560640?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1504430410415099914?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1504430410415099914?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tiqgfk/9_million_xmr_spoted_in_kucoin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tiqgfk/9_million_xmr_spoted_in_kucoin/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf</a><br>
-<a href="https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/powell-says-digital-dollar-must-ensure-privacy-identification" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/powell-says-digital-dollar-must-ensure-privacy-identification</a></p>

<p>🚨GUEST SEGMENT SPONSOR:<br>
Monero.com wallet by Cake Wallet 🍰, the first open-source Monero wallet for iOS. If you have an iphone or Android 📲, Monero Talk recommends that you use Monero.com by Cake Wallet ;) It has been verified by the Monero community, you control your own keys, it connects directly to the Monero blockchain, and you can even exchange between XMR, BTC, LTC &amp; more in the app!</p>

<p>Monero.com by Cake Wallet -  ONLY Monero wallet <a href="https://monero.com/" rel="nofollow">https://monero.com/</a></p>

<p>🚨PRICE REPORT SPONSOR:<br>
The Monerotopia Price Report Segment is sponsored by… LocalMonero. Avoid using KYC exchanges, Buy &amp; Sell Monero directly for fiat, peer to peer.</p>

<p>Website: <a href="https://localmonero.co/" rel="nofollow">https://localmonero.co/</a></p>

<p>🚨WEEKLY NEWS SPONSOR:The Moneroptopia weekly News segment is sponsored by…IVPN. Resist online Surveillance, IVPN  is an open source app and website that doesn’t log your activity, store any of your personal data and no email required to create an account! Go to Ivpn.net today!</p>

<p>Website: <a href="https://www.ivpn.net/" rel="nofollow">https://www.ivpn.net/</a></p>

<p>Don&#39;t forget to SUBSCRIBE! The more subscribers, the more we can help Monero grow! 🚀</p>

<p>Listen &amp; Reach out to us:<br>
🎧PODCAST: <br>
ITUNES: <a href="https://apple.co/34W7FVp" rel="nofollow">https://apple.co/34W7FVp</a><br>
SPOTIFY: <a href="https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4" rel="nofollow">https://spoti.fi/2t1y9b4</a><br>
STITCHER: <a href="https://bit.ly/2tUcIck" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/2tUcIck</a><br>
ODYSEE: <a href="https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/3bMaFtE</a><br>
WEBSITE: <a href="https://www.monerotalk.live" rel="nofollow">https://www.monerotalk.live</a><br>
📧CONTACT: <a href="mailto:monerotalklive@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">monerotalklive@gmail.com</a></p>

<p>Get 🤓😎Social with us:<br>
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SUNITA: <a href="https://twitter.com/sunchakr" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sunchakr</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>MONEROTOPIA 💃🏽🏝🕺🏼 EPISODE #57: A Monerotopia 2022 Conference update (13 days left!!!), Price Report with aFungible, special Monerotopia 2022 guest speakers, Rachel-Rose O’Leary, a long time Monero supporter, a programmer and writer working on anonymity software DarkFi (we had technical issues last week so she is joining us again this weekend!), Nam Sardar, Founder &amp; CEO at Neel Capital &amp; MORE!!</p>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5u9tmpiH_Cg" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<p>GET YOUR MONEROTOPIA2022 TICKETS TODAY! The list just keeps growing! <a href="https://monerotopia.com/" rel="nofollow">https://monerotopia.com/</a></p>

<p>If you enjoyed the show &amp; would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much!</p>

<p>XMR Donations Accepted (Type in monerotalk.crypto in Cake Wallet):<br>
49GdSCVTTE4TaDknDFn95QGc3mn3g7JZiPKX6QM7ZpuE5cscRFuGNhnjATKnjDHY7tNUQMM63n24uPYbj1AXFBk5KUPnDrL</p>

<p>OR </p>

<p>you can also help support the channel by purchasing a bag of delicious Guatemalan Coffee! Check out <a href="https://gratuitas.org/" rel="nofollow">https://gratuitas.org/</a> to buy a bag &amp; if you enjoy what you taste, send a Monero tip directly to the farmers that grew, harvested, prepared, and roasted your beans! </p>

<p>Hotel Suggestions: Group Name: Monero Talk 2022<br>
-Link for Tradewinds: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index15.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index15.html</a><br>
-Link for Chesterfield: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index105.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index105.html</a><br>
-Link for Catalina Hotel: <a href="https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index107.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.southbeachgroup.com/groupevent/index107.html</a></p>

<p>⏱Timestamps:<br>
00:00 - Intro <br>
00:44 - Monerotopia: cool guests and things that are comming<br>
11:46 - Price report!<br>
19:43 - 1# Guest segment: Rachel Rose on private DeFi<br>
32:07 - 2# Guest segment: Nam Sardar and a panoramic view on Monero!<br>
41:14 - News segment<br>
41:51 - Should monero be used for privacy?<br>
45:23 - European Parliament blocking anonymous crypto payments<br>
47:13 - Michael Ruiz highlights on BTC problems<br>
48:28 - Fluffy Pony on Wraped Monero for DeFi<br>
49:41 - 9M XMR spotted on Kucoin!?<br>
50:49 - Without privacy we are creating a system to discriminate<br>
53:34 - Governments supporting monero?<br>
54:03 - Viewers on stage</p>

<p>🔗Links:<br><br>
Nam Sardar: <a href="https://twitter.com/namsardar" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/namsardar</a><br>
Website: neelcapital.io<br>
Rachel-Rose O’Leary: <a href="https://github.com/lunar-mining" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/lunar-mining</a><br>
Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/lunar_mining" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/lunar_mining</a></p>

<p>📈 aFungible Donation Address:<br>
88hsMwgz7ifgEj6BqsBYB9LnjwBrJRJBw9mSt6TKVRH5FyQHmdRN4BqE2PJx3re5r58sf11eJyHDD7UGivjQ3h3jS732FMH</p>

<p>📰🗞 NEWS SEGMENT LINKS:<br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/douglastuman/status/1507208750196789248?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/douglastuman/status/1507208750196789248?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/25/eu-lawmakers-to-vote-on-blocking-anonymous-crypto-payments-documents-show/" rel="nofollow">https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/25/eu-lawmakers-to-vote-on-blocking-anonymous-crypto-payments-documents-show/</a><br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/sovrynmindset/status/1507246275208560640?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/sovrynmindset/status/1507246275208560640?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1504430410415099914?s=21" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1504430410415099914?s=21</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tiqgfk/9_million_xmr_spoted_in_kucoin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/tiqgfk/9_million_xmr_spoted_in_kucoin/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf</a><br>
-<a href="https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6" rel="nofollow">https://medium.com/@JEhrenhofer/without-privacy-we-are-creating-systems-to-discriminate-807dfb1f35e6</a><br>
-<a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/powell-says-digital-dollar-must-ensure-privacy-identification" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/powell-says-digital-dollar-must-ensure-privacy-identification</a></p>

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