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Katie of CitizenX on Acquiring Alternative Citizenships with Monero | EPI 396

October 9th, 2026

1 hr 5 mins 41 secs

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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of Monero Talk, Douglas Tuman speaks with Katie Ananina, CMO of CitizenX and founder of Plan B Passport, to discuss second citizenships, international mobility, and financial sovereignty. Katie explains why crypto holders should consider diversifying their passports and residency options as a form of personal security, and how CitizenX helps clients obtain citizenship through investment or ancestry with a privacy-focused, crypto-native approach.

The conversation explores El Salvador's transformation under President Bukele, emerging opportunities in Latin America, and using Monero to privately purchase valuable tools for greater sovereignty.

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:01:33) Intro with Katie
(00:08:18) Plan B Passport: why second citizenship matters
(00:13:31) The fourth turning, crisis planning, and passport security
(00:20:49) Citizenship by ancestry and the Polish passport opportunity
(00:29:00) Paying for citizenship with Monero and privacy-focused services
(00:33:16) Citizenship-by-investment programs around the world
(00:41:00) Residency options, El Salvador, and the future of crypto
(00:55:22) Bitcoin, AI, privacy, and staying true to your principles
(01:03:10) Monero adoption, Bitcoin Beach, and closing remarks

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